Army of Mom

So this is how liberty dies ... with thunderous applause.


My two cents

Well, if it were only two cents, we'd be doing well, I guess.

I always think it is awful when people are going to lose their jobs. Having been there, I know how devastating it can be. It can also damage the economy in those communities from the trickle down effect. Bob loses his job, so he won't be going bowling every week and he certainly won't be taking the Mrs. to Outback Steakhouse for dinner till he finds another job, etc, etc.

However, Ford's restructuring is another example of how the past-their-time unions are screwing people. Unions played a great role in US history and that is where they should be today - in history. We looked at Fords both times we were going to buy new cars and both times, they were priced so high, that even their economy vehicle was out of our price range. Hmm, any ideas why that is? Probably because they have to pay Bob a shitload per hour to work on the assembly line.

And if my pro-union buddy KR reads this, I still love you. Just put your fingers in your ears and don't listen/read.

Off to a funeral for the grandma of one of my friends. I hate funerals.


  • At 11:22 AM, January 23, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    You knew I wasn't going to ignore this! :)
    CEO Bill Ford's earnings are $5.6 million. He's NOT a union member. The union did not set his earnings.
    An auto assembly plant costs about $500 million to operate, accoring to Assembly Magazine. Taxes and robotics make up a big chunk of that value.
    Gas prices are through the roof and truck sales are down, which has hurt Ford tremendously. The unions do not control the oil and gas market.

    Here's something to ponder from the Institute for Policy Studies:
    Percentage gains since 1990
    Chief executive pay 463 %
    S&P 500 stock index 248 %
    Corporate profits 88 %
    Worker pay 42 %
    Inflation 36 %

    Notice anything askew?
    If it wasn't for American Airlines' union, hubby probably wouldn't work their anymore. And as a union, those folks sacrificed A LOT so the company could make it. Hubby doesn't make a huge, unwarranted salary. He does have good insurance, but that's because AA is such a large company, not because of some union strongarm tactics.
    One last point: The decline of unions created Texas to become a "right to work state." Because of that law, an employer can fire you for any or no reason and they don't have to give you one. At least with a union, companies have a bit more accountability.

  • At 4:55 PM, January 23, 2006, Blogger Army of Mom said…

    I love it when people start a debate and give me their supporting facts behind it. Makes it so much more informative.

    And, no squabbles with you about the execs at these companies and their inflated salaries. I could go and on regarding those.

    Ford has overpriced autos and that has nothing to do with gas prices. We looked at their economy (ha) car and their minivan when we were shopping and both were terribly overpriced ... so something is askew. I tend to believe unions setting wages too high play a role in that, but there are definitely issues there.

    Thanks for chiming in, though. :) psst, I knew you wouldn't be able to let it go. I took a deep breath before I wrote it, saying to myself, that my dear K would have something to say to me. ;)

  • At 6:44 PM, January 23, 2006, Blogger BULLSEYE said…

    Union, what's a union? I've worked as a Mercedes Benz tech since 1979 in South Florida. Ain't no stinkin unions down here...heh heh.

  • At 9:53 PM, January 23, 2006, Blogger cashin said…

    Yea, unions are pretty rare here to. Thank god. It's difficult to support a union when that's what's driving both Northwest Airlines and GM, my 2 most beloved companies, straight into the ground. Bankruptcy?! Thank you Mr. Union man.


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