Army of Mom

So this is how liberty dies ... with thunderous applause.


Straddling the fence

Ok, everyone should sit down because I imagine I'm going to shock my friends on all sides of politics when I say this, but I'm not a supporter of the Patriot Act and I'm really glad that it didn't get reapproved. I really hope that it dies now. I'm also not a fan of the secret wiretapping.

Now, once you pick your jaws up off the floor, I'll tell you why.

While I trust President Bush *stop snickering my leftie friends* I do not trust ANY government to overstep their boundaries. For one, Bush will not always be in office. What will we do if we get someone who wants to abuse this law even more than it is being abused right now? For my conservative friends who support it, I ask you, would you want this law to be used by Janet Reno or another attorney general who may have ulterior motives?

I do not like the idea that if some confidential informant tells a CIA person that I may be a terrorist, then my lines can be tapped without a judicially issued warrant. Hell no. While I do want to see every terrorist rot in a cell somewhere in a naked pyramid. However, I do not feel like violating the civil rights of American citizens is worth catching a terrorist. It is not that hard to get a warrant. Trust me. I used to cover cops and the courts and judges are VERY lenient in what they require for a warrant. It is just as easy to indict someone by a grand jury. I could get Bob the Tomato indicted if I were a district attorney.

There are several reasons behind my thinking and I credit Army of Dad with helping me realize some of these things. I used to be a proponent for gun registration. I mean, what is the harm? If it helps the government keep up with who is a legal gun owner, then what is the big deal? Well, the big deal is that if we get good intentioned lawmakers who want to confiscate guns followed by corrupt leaders who want a powerless people, we could be screwed by a dictator. Do you think the Jews had guns under Hitler? I know that is an awful comparison, but think about it. What if some foreign country wanted to invade our lands? We would be unable to defend ourselves till the Army arrived, if they were able to come to BFE, Texas. God knows the legislators took away our nearest military installation in budget cuts years ago. But ,that is another story. I didn't think it was that big of a deal for everyday people to be armed until 9/11. But, I was changed by that event. I do want to catch these assholes, I really do, but not if it costs me more of my freedoms. Ok, so I'll go through a massive screening at the airport, but I'll be damned if the government is going to be allowed to listen to my phone calls simply because they're in a hurry and don't want to be troubled with a warrant.


  • At 9:23 AM, December 20, 2005, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    One small edit: this was the first welcome home parade since the War to End All Wars which was WW I.

  • At 9:40 AM, December 20, 2005, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    Don't get me started on airport screening. I flew to Indiana last week (think middle-aged mom with 6-year-old in tow) and apparently airport security requires that women don't use bobby pins. Both times I was forced to take the clip and pins out of my hair and have them screened. One time I got felt up and had the wand run up and down the inside of my legs, right in front of my wide-eyed son, who had to watch through glass as his mommy got searched. And both times they missed the inch-long razor knife I carry in my purse for miscellaneous cutting jobs. I feel SO much safer.

  • At 9:49 AM, December 20, 2005, Blogger Army of Mom said…

    Yeah, I think airport screening is a bit of a joke. They won't let me take a keychain in, but half the men I know sneak in with knives they forget to take out of their pockets.

    Another view on the wiretapping from Liberty, Just in Case.

  • At 4:02 PM, December 20, 2005, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    Who are you and what have you done with AOM?
    I'm so pleased that we agree on this subject!

  • At 4:42 PM, December 20, 2005, Blogger Army of Mom said…

    Other conservative-types like Kim agree with me on this one. So, don't get any ideas my liberal friends. :)

    I have many issues that I don't just go with the party lines, trust me.

  • At 6:45 PM, December 20, 2005, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    Hubby and I feel the same way, AoM.
    And as is typical, too much additional "stuff" was tacked on.

    Must keep the gummint in check. Always. It's another reason we're such strong 2A supporters.

  • At 12:29 AM, December 21, 2005, Blogger Army of Mom said…

    Sting, I hear you and I hope you're right. I really really do. I just fear the hard-on for power that politicians get and so many things are done covertly ... just hate to see it.

    and, you are absolutely right about terrorists taking advantage of our laws. I hate that, but it is like innocent until proven guilty. We probably let a lot of bad guys go, but I'd rather do that than convict one innocent man. *shrug*

  • At 1:07 AM, December 21, 2005, Blogger Uzz said…

    I can see your point AoM and I agree with you on points of the Patriot act being a bit too much...but I must say that I would not like to let a lot of bad guys go to save one possibly innocent...mainly because I never want to see innocent people jumping to their deaths ever again. People use the same argument in reference to our nuking of Japan...a lot of innocent Japanese people died to save maybe a million of our service people...sad...but true. one person in past several years since the Patriot Act was passed that was wrongly convicted. The wiretapping stuff that a lot of people have been against was actually only used in overseas communications and led to arrests of some bad dudes.

    The question I keep coming back to is this...would you have agreed to have let someone wiretap Mohammad Atta and his fellow band of 9/11 murderers if it would have saved those who died that day? In a second!

    I agree that there are parts of the Patriot Act that I don't agree with. It is a little over the top in some areas, but the Senators that voted FOR it a few years ago are suddenly freaked out by it, even though there has not been a single innocent person convicted. Why are they against it now? I maintain that if you are a law abiding citizen then you have nothing to worry about.

    I guess the War on Terror is over...or maybe we just have to have another 9/11 to jolt us back to the reality that there are a lot of people that still want us ALL dead.

    Then again...what do I know...I actually voted for Clinton...twice!

  • At 8:37 AM, December 21, 2005, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    They can wiretap Atta all they want. What they are doing with the Patriot Act stuff is using those powers on citizens! Look at what Clinton did with RICO (a law that was only passed to bust up gangsters during Prohibition), he used it against pro-life demonstrators! Clinton also used FBI files against political opponents and the Democrats in the Senate are now trying to suppress that report so I really doubt that there will be a large cry for the release of any information so long as the MSM is in the Democrat's pocket!

    The government has entirely too much power as it is, they DO NOT need any more. We should be repealing laws not passing new ones. Bush should be spending his political capital on more meaningful things like securing the borders, simplifying the tax code and fixing social security instead of handing powerful weapons to people like Reno and the Clintons (sooner or later a Democrat will get back in the Whitehouse). If you can make the President take time out of his day to sign an order allowing what amounts to a wiretap then you can get a judge just as fast, if not faster.


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